Curse

twicky_kid · Jul 31, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24

accually its only a 9 life difference majors gives 41 hp not 40 as most people seem to think.

i've said the exact same thing for long time. its a groove that has been dug by other games. you have to have "the" best stuff or else its junk. i just laugh and sell my sup vigors to the idoits that will buy them.

the same can be said about enchanting upgrades. i bought a 18% sword pommel for 10K while 20% where going for 35-40k. since the monk farming build you'll probly see that price double for the 20% but you won't see the 18% move that much. do you really think that 2% is going to make an enchantment of 10 sec last that much longer? no its not. only difference that 2% will make is on spells that have a 30 or 60 sec duration. even then its only about 1-2 sec longer.

so i just do what i always do. sell the stuff at inflated prices and laugh all the way to my storage.

xxhell · Jul 31, 2005, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by The Stealth Ranger

Isn't 40 platinum for 10 extra health, compared to the major rune, completely and utterly ridiculous? In my opinion it is. I mean what is 10 extra health in a furious battle. A split second. Almost nothing. And for that you have to pay 40p! I mean in real life that would be called lousy marketing. That's a product only complete idiots would buy.

Of course it's something, but I think ArenaNet really had a weak moment here. Why not make it a significant increase of +25 or more? Why so hilariously low?

it matters the 10 extra health isnt worth the 38k mor then major if its going to cost you all your money, but some people its worth it they have like 500k and 10 health could save there ass
ohh and to the post above me im just like that i like near perfect items that go for cheap

InvaderGIR · Jul 31, 2005, 04:36 PM // 16:36

It doesn't matter if you have any vigor runes in PvE at all. While Warriors may believe they need it, they only truly need it if they're playing PvP. And then, it's probably better to just unlock the superior rune via faction points.

Funny, I used to always think that Major Vigors gave 50 and Superior gave 75. I guess I'm wrong.

Anarkii · Jul 31, 2005, 05:08 PM // 17:08

*Thinks

+20HP Bow upgrade for 1K. +30HP for 90K? 89K for +10 health? What a Joke?
9% Sundering for 15K. 10% for 70K? 55K for 1% better chance? What a Joke?
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List Goes on.

Its not a joke. People have too much money and need a way to spend it. Perfect items /upgrades/runes are the way to do it. Superior Vigor should be about 70K(around the price before the rune traders made a mess of everything) to be an effective gold sink.

nooby nooby · Jul 31, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Nothing to do about it besides it's just a game that has no monthly fee give it a chance, and just play it. Got a problem with that?Then dont play it!Oh yeah and also you can get a life if you have time.

Wa$d · Jul 31, 2005, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Stop complaining they use to be 100k

The Stealth Ranger · Jul 31, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Seeing the hostile reactions. Oh yes, just like I figured: only complete idiots would buy it

Lagg · Jul 31, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

If anything, if there really was a big difference between Minor (which you should buy), Major (which you may buy) or Superior (which you should definitely wait for till you find and then sell), the pricedifferences wouldn't be large, they would be astronomical.

Say, if Minor was +30hp, Major +60hp and Superior +90hp, then the prices would be something along the lines of, oh, I dunno, respectively 1k, 100k and 100M (yes, I know the cap is 1M 100k).

Just look at Absorption for Warriors. There -1, -2 and -3 really does make a big difference (still not as much as if it were -1, -3 and -7 or something), the prices are already skyrocketing.

Theus · Jul 31, 2005, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by The Stealth Ranger

Seeing the hostile reactions. Oh yes, just like I figured: only complete idiots would buy it

Exactly. 9 hp BARELY makes a difference.

Your better of using a Shelter/Defence/Elemental defence Mod in your weapon.

Because a small reduction in damage goes a hell of alot further than a sliver of 9 hp.

Orochim4ru · Jul 31, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

If you've got nothing left to buy and don't actually care about the look of your character, dropping 100k on a sup vigor wouldn't irk you... and it didn't irk people before.

That's the thing: there's a carrot, but the actual benefit from getting it is very low, hence guild war's no grinding policy (no further comments on said policy). If you chose to use major vigor, you aren't going to be a cripple, but you aren't strictly as powerful as someone running a sup vigor.

Major runes other than vigor, however, are completely batshit retardedly useless.

ShinJin Kahn · Jul 31, 2005, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by The Stealth Ranger

It's still available at Lion's Arch right now for 40p. But I don't even know what the average price is with human traders, but it should be ridiculous too I guess.

something that the Euro server players might like to know is that you CANNOT buy sup vigor runes from ANY trader on the USA servers, but the on the euro servers it's still buyable from the rune traders.

Mandy Memory · Aug 01, 2005, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Many times that measly 10 health has won me a match/mission/etc. Going down to below 10 health would kill me without it, and, for me, my healing skills seem to recharge when i am below 10

noblepaladin · Aug 01, 2005, 05:55 PM // 17:55

The reason why people buy it is because there is nothing else to spend gold on. Some people keep saying it's "stupid" to buy that rune, but how does 40k gold in the bank help you? That 10 extra hp will (although it's small). Of course if you have other stuff to invest in, such as not having droknar's armor yet, then you should save for that. But after getting droknar's armor and a desert collector weapon, the next logical step to improving your character is the Superior Vigor. Since it's so easy to get droknar's and the armor, all those people who have gotten it is going for the vigor or other minor improvements. That is why there is so much demand and that's why the prices are so high.

glockjs · Aug 02, 2005, 12:13 AM // 00:13

all i can really say if you dont like it dont buy it

guess you werent around before the rune trader :/

BrotherReins · Aug 02, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28

lmfao

apparently you didn't play diablo 2 to learn what the hell a single percent can do to the price of an item. geez, the price difference between a 6%, a 7%, and an 8% windforce.